you've been critical of ambassador rice of the united nations for going out on television and saying that story. clearly was not true, from what we know now, but guys like you are being criticized by, for instance, members of the congressional black caucus. they say that you and john mccain are sexist and racist as well for criticizing ambassador rice. >> well, when you can't answer the question, you attack the questioner. the only color i'm worried about when it comes to benghazi is red. blood red. the death of four americans. what motivates senator mccain and myself is that we were in libya last september. we came back and wrote an op ed piece that if we don't form a national army to replace these militias, libya is going to break apart. and the sad story here is not just the four dead americans, which is heart breaking, the libyan people want to move forward and this leading from behind by obama, we've done nothing to help them mr. an army to replace the militia. >> steve: absolutely. we've simply got to get to the bottom of this because as you said, four americans are dead here.